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		<title>By: David Marshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 02:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  I love the discussion!  

I have researched high school students.  Guess what is the most common thing they do on their phone...

answer: texting.  (even more than talking - wow)

You can see the research here if you wish:
http://blog.mongooseresearch.com/2009/04/texting-is-the-most-common-use-of-mobile-phones.html

For marketing, we have 3 options: 
1) a mobile web site (which can now be very nice if done well)
2) a native phone specific application (iphone, bberry)
3) Texting.. SMS.  MMS is an option but low quality kills the deal.

The third optional is already the most popular (see above). The key is to leverage this existing behavior.  The Mongoose Mobile Platform is SMS based.. simple texting.  It is what people what - to communicate - stay in touch - on their terms.  On an admissions site.. it is implemented as a value-add service to prospective students to manage their mobile updates... be reminded of important admissions dates.  Be notified when there is an event in their area.  Helpful things like that.

Mongoose is partnering with St. Mary&#039;s University (TX) on the initial implementation of the technology.  We are excited to examine how adding more touch points to the admissions cycle (Mobile Updates) will have an effect on conversion and yield.  ...that&#039;s all that really matters... right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  I love the discussion!  </p>
<p>I have researched high school students.  Guess what is the most common thing they do on their phone&#8230;</p>
<p>answer: texting.  (even more than talking &#8211; wow)</p>
<p>You can see the research here if you wish:<br />
<a href="http://blog.mongooseresearch.com/2009/04/texting-is-the-most-common-use-of-mobile-phones.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.mongooseresearch.com/2009/04/texting-is-the-most-common-use-of-mobile-phones.html</a></p>
<p>For marketing, we have 3 options:<br />
1) a mobile web site (which can now be very nice if done well)<br />
2) a native phone specific application (iphone, bberry)<br />
3) Texting.. SMS.  MMS is an option but low quality kills the deal.</p>
<p>The third optional is already the most popular (see above). The key is to leverage this existing behavior.  The Mongoose Mobile Platform is SMS based.. simple texting.  It is what people what &#8211; to communicate &#8211; stay in touch &#8211; on their terms.  On an admissions site.. it is implemented as a value-add service to prospective students to manage their mobile updates&#8230; be reminded of important admissions dates.  Be notified when there is an event in their area.  Helpful things like that.</p>
<p>Mongoose is partnering with St. Mary&#8217;s University (TX) on the initial implementation of the technology.  We are excited to examine how adding more touch points to the admissions cycle (Mobile Updates) will have an effect on conversion and yield.  &#8230;that&#8217;s all that really matters&#8230; right?</p>
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		<title>By: Gilzow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gilzow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 17:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Karine re: twitter - i did not have the opportunity to ask how they were going to view the twitter posts. 

We just had our monthly campus Web Developers meeting today and I asked if any department on campus was pursuing either a mobile web initiative or anything with SMS text messaging.   The answer was a unanimous &quot;no&quot;.  Main reason: budgets.  However everyone has started using twitter and most were also using facebook to reach alumni, current students and/or future students.  Specifically, one person said [paraphrasing] &quot;I dont have to get permission to do something with Facebook or Twitter.  I&#039;m already in charge of sending out this information by email; twitter/facebook is just another avenue to get the information to our customers.  Developing a mobile application would require that I get permission first before pursuing it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Karine re: twitter &#8211; i did not have the opportunity to ask how they were going to view the twitter posts. </p>
<p>We just had our monthly campus Web Developers meeting today and I asked if any department on campus was pursuing either a mobile web initiative or anything with SMS text messaging.   The answer was a unanimous &#8220;no&#8221;.  Main reason: budgets.  However everyone has started using twitter and most were also using facebook to reach alumni, current students and/or future students.  Specifically, one person said [paraphrasing] &#8220;I dont have to get permission to do something with Facebook or Twitter.  I&#8217;m already in charge of sending out this information by email; twitter/facebook is just another avenue to get the information to our customers.  Developing a mobile application would require that I get permission first before pursuing it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dorcey Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dorcey Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 20:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting discussion.  Just wanted to add a data point here from a recent Brown survey of alumni who graduated in the past six years.  We asked which electronic technologies they would like to see Brown use more frequently to foster communication with and among alumni.  We didn&#039;t ask about mobile applications (just wasn&#039;t on our radar) but we did ask about text messaging.  It ranked dead last. One telltale comment was &quot;As much as I have pride in being a Brown alum, I do not want the alumni association invading my life with text messages.&quot;

This could change over time, of course, and we will ask the question again.  But for now, we don&#039;t see a need to pursue it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting discussion.  Just wanted to add a data point here from a recent Brown survey of alumni who graduated in the past six years.  We asked which electronic technologies they would like to see Brown use more frequently to foster communication with and among alumni.  We didn&#8217;t ask about mobile applications (just wasn&#8217;t on our radar) but we did ask about text messaging.  It ranked dead last. One telltale comment was &#8220;As much as I have pride in being a Brown alum, I do not want the alumni association invading my life with text messages.&#8221;</p>
<p>This could change over time, of course, and we will ask the question again.  But for now, we don&#8217;t see a need to pursue it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt Worrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt Worrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 17:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of good thoughts here.  Just want to add my 2 cents.  I think a big part of the issue is folks are trying to view mobile as a stand alone marketing medium, when it really needs to be part of an integrated strategy.  Also, I think sometimes folks are not seeing all the potential for alumni applications.  This is not about sending a newsletter to a mobile device, it is about providing event information real time to attendees, another channel to offer distressed inventory, provide news real time, and even create a new channel for giving.  

To expand on the giving, there are specific short codes where an opt in user can make a gift that gets added to their mobile bill.  It isn&#039;t about $100 gifts but rather using events/media to increase reach and collect a lot of $1 gifts (see Barack Obama campaign). The technology issue is real but choosing to develop apps for IPhone/Blackberry and use WAP sites for the rest creates pretty good coverage. We have found that penetration for smart devices is much higher for college grads than national averages.  

Our company is launching mobile platforms for alumni offices at no cost and supporting with advertising.  We are also making the revenue available via local advertising for businesses the campuses already have relationships with.  Opt in campaigns are performing well, retention will depend on how fresh the content can be maintained.  The problem we can&#039;t solve is the resource issue on campus to support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of good thoughts here.  Just want to add my 2 cents.  I think a big part of the issue is folks are trying to view mobile as a stand alone marketing medium, when it really needs to be part of an integrated strategy.  Also, I think sometimes folks are not seeing all the potential for alumni applications.  This is not about sending a newsletter to a mobile device, it is about providing event information real time to attendees, another channel to offer distressed inventory, provide news real time, and even create a new channel for giving.  </p>
<p>To expand on the giving, there are specific short codes where an opt in user can make a gift that gets added to their mobile bill.  It isn&#8217;t about $100 gifts but rather using events/media to increase reach and collect a lot of $1 gifts (see Barack Obama campaign). The technology issue is real but choosing to develop apps for IPhone/Blackberry and use WAP sites for the rest creates pretty good coverage. We have found that penetration for smart devices is much higher for college grads than national averages.  </p>
<p>Our company is launching mobile platforms for alumni offices at no cost and supporting with advertising.  We are also making the revenue available via local advertising for businesses the campuses already have relationships with.  Opt in campaigns are performing well, retention will depend on how fresh the content can be maintained.  The problem we can&#8217;t solve is the resource issue on campus to support.</p>
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		<title>By: Colleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 15:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anyone else&#039;s IT is anything like ours, the answer is always &quot;No you can&#039;t do anything mobile - security issues, student information blah blah cross-site scripting blah blah&quot; - whether it&#039;s valid or not. I&#039;m a designer not a coder but I&#039;m pretty sure there&#039;s a way to do it without leaving the student body&#039;s information at risk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone else&#8217;s IT is anything like ours, the answer is always &#8220;No you can&#8217;t do anything mobile &#8211; security issues, student information blah blah cross-site scripting blah blah&#8221; &#8211; whether it&#8217;s valid or not. I&#8217;m a designer not a coder but I&#8217;m pretty sure there&#8217;s a way to do it without leaving the student body&#8217;s information at risk.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle James</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 15:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Karine - I guess the point I&#039;m pushing is that I wouldn&#039;t waste time developing mobile apps because I just don&#039;t see the long term sustainable value.  

Imagine how far smartphones have come in the last year... now think another year or two.  The long term value just isn&#039;t in mobile apps because they will be able to handle full renderings of websites with flash, javascript, etc soon enough.  Heck my Blackberry Storm on my desk right now is a more powerful machine then my first Gateway computer from 1996!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Karine &#8211; I guess the point I&#8217;m pushing is that I wouldn&#8217;t waste time developing mobile apps because I just don&#8217;t see the long term sustainable value.  </p>
<p>Imagine how far smartphones have come in the last year&#8230; now think another year or two.  The long term value just isn&#8217;t in mobile apps because they will be able to handle full renderings of websites with flash, javascript, etc soon enough.  Heck my Blackberry Storm on my desk right now is a more powerful machine then my first Gateway computer from 1996!</p>
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		<title>By: Karine Joly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karine Joly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 14:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bill - yep, the lack of standardization is definitely an issue. Actually, it reminds me of the *good* old days of browser compatibility nightmares - Netscape, IE, AOL and the rest. Things have improved on the *traditional* web and they will probably become better soon on the mobile web.

@Kyle - Interesting post. While smart phones do render websites pretty well, I think there are still usability issues. I&#039;ve been playing a bit with some iPhone applications (from newspapers, facebook, linkedin, twitterific) and they are definitely more easy to use than using these websites on my iTouch. It&#039;s doable, it&#039;s true, but the application will get me where I want to go faster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bill &#8211; yep, the lack of standardization is definitely an issue. Actually, it reminds me of the *good* old days of browser compatibility nightmares &#8211; Netscape, IE, AOL and the rest. Things have improved on the *traditional* web and they will probably become better soon on the mobile web.</p>
<p>@Kyle &#8211; Interesting post. While smart phones do render websites pretty well, I think there are still usability issues. I&#8217;ve been playing a bit with some iPhone applications (from newspapers, facebook, linkedin, twitterific) and they are definitely more easy to use than using these websites on my iTouch. It&#8217;s doable, it&#8217;s true, but the application will get me where I want to go faster.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle James</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 12:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of good thoughts here but I think that you are all ignoring one important fact.  New smart phones render websites pretty well and will only get better at this.  I addressed this issue months ago so instead of getting into a long response I&#039;ll just link to that post.  

&lt;a href=&quot;http://doteduguru.com/id478-smartphone-apps-build-for-web.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Smartphone Applications: Just Build for the Web&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of good thoughts here but I think that you are all ignoring one important fact.  New smart phones render websites pretty well and will only get better at this.  I addressed this issue months ago so instead of getting into a long response I&#8217;ll just link to that post.  </p>
<p><a href="http://doteduguru.com/id478-smartphone-apps-build-for-web.html" rel="nofollow">Smartphone Applications: Just Build for the Web</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 16:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to add that there are more APIs than you can shake a stick at currently.  Karine posted the article about the iPhone application (which has to be developed according to Apple&#039;s standards), but what about the BlackBerry app, the Verizon API, ATT&#039;s, T-Mobile has some proprietary standards for applications.  This would mean, theoretically, that I have to develop 5 or 6 GPS apps in order to cover my bases.

Currently iPhone has lost mobile leadership to the Blackberry Curve and Palm is releasing their new phone shortly.

In short, I understand and appreciate the desire to push ahead in this new arena, but until there is some standardization, we can do no more than baby-step our way around.

Just my two cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to add that there are more APIs than you can shake a stick at currently.  Karine posted the article about the iPhone application (which has to be developed according to Apple&#8217;s standards), but what about the BlackBerry app, the Verizon API, ATT&#8217;s, T-Mobile has some proprietary standards for applications.  This would mean, theoretically, that I have to develop 5 or 6 GPS apps in order to cover my bases.</p>
<p>Currently iPhone has lost mobile leadership to the Blackberry Curve and Palm is releasing their new phone shortly.</p>
<p>In short, I understand and appreciate the desire to push ahead in this new arena, but until there is some standardization, we can do no more than baby-step our way around.</p>
<p>Just my two cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Karine Joly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karine Joly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 21:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gilzow - thanks for providing such great insights. 

I really appreciate your taking the time to share your experience and research in such a detailed comment - especially from your BlackBerry (which, BTW, probably speaks a lot about the power of mobile web access devices even though you&#039;re not representative of our traditional target audience - OK, I&#039;m teasing you here ;-) 

Now your point about accessibility/standards is right on target - that is definitely a way to serve our audiences no matter which devices (computer or mobile phone) they use. 

I&#039;m really not trying to point fingers to anybody - just to stir the pot and get some conversations going around this topic. 

re: Twitter. Did you actually get a chance to ask students requesting more Twitter updates how they were going to check these -- using a computer or another device?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gilzow &#8211; thanks for providing such great insights. </p>
<p>I really appreciate your taking the time to share your experience and research in such a detailed comment &#8211; especially from your BlackBerry (which, BTW, probably speaks a lot about the power of mobile web access devices even though you&#8217;re not representative of our traditional target audience &#8211; OK, I&#8217;m teasing you here ;-) </p>
<p>Now your point about accessibility/standards is right on target &#8211; that is definitely a way to serve our audiences no matter which devices (computer or mobile phone) they use. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m really not trying to point fingers to anybody &#8211; just to stir the pot and get some conversations going around this topic. </p>
<p>re: Twitter. Did you actually get a chance to ask students requesting more Twitter updates how they were going to check these &#8212; using a computer or another device?</p>
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